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 on: September 22, 2020, 12:46:15 PM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by Julie H
Thanks Dragon.

I have been using Cydectin  exclusively and as limited as I can.  This year it just seems they need something different as I have had a few issues .  I purchased Prohibit, Ivermectin, Safeguard and Valbazen hoping to do a 3 way on all my goats now that they are close to breeding.

Do you think the Valbazen is a better choice over the Safeguard in that drug class?  Is it safe to hit my youngsters with a 3 way or safer to just give 1?

I will look at the health pages for doses.  Thanks.

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 on: September 21, 2020, 06:51:19 PM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by dragonlair
Go to the Caprine Health and information page just above this one. Scroll down to where it starts with the worms and medications. When do you the cocktail, you give the full dose for the weight of the goat for each medication. You can give it all at once (most effective) or several hours apart. Worms are getting so resistant to all medications that this is about the most efficient way to kill them. It's not an every month type of deal, it's usually done once when an animal comes to a new farm or for an animal that just can't seem to get cleared of worms. This is the only time I deworm without a fecal.

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 on: September 21, 2020, 06:36:49 PM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by dragonlair
Yup, it was me. I use 2 or 3 from different chemical families.



There are three families of drugs which are used to treat internal parasites in livestock:

1. Benzimidazoles - Fenbendazole, Albendazole, Oxybendazole, Thiabendazole
2. Nicotinics - Levamisole, Pyrantel, Moratel
3. Macrolytic Lactones - Ivermectin, Doramectin, Moxidectin

The Benzimidazoles (Safeguard, Panacur, Valbazen, Synanthic), also called "white dewormers" are broad spectrum and safe to use. They are effective against tapeworms. Albendazole (Valbazen) is effective against adult liver flukes, but should not be used in pregnant or lactating females.

Levamisole (Tramisol), also called a "clear dewormer" is broad spectrum and effective against arrested larvae. However, it has a narrower margin of safety in the injectable form.  Pyrantel (Strongid) is only effective against adult worms. Moratel (RumatelĀ®) is an oral feed additive and is only effective against adult worms.

The Macrolytic lactones or "avermectins" (Ivomec, Dectomax, Quest, Cydectin) are the newest family of drugs. They are broad spectrum and have a wide margin of safety. They are also effective against external (biting) parasites, including nose bots. Moxidectin is a persistent-activity dewormer that continues to kill worms after it is administered. In a sheep trial in Virginia, treatment with Moxidectin (Cydectin) at 8 week intervals was more effective than treatment with Ivermectin at 4 week intervals.

Ivomec, Valbazen, and Tramisol drench are approved for use in sheep. Only Fenbendazole, Valbazen and Rumatel are FDA-approved for use in goats. Use of any product which is inconsistent with its label constitutes "extra-label" drug use.

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 on: September 18, 2020, 01:44:55 PM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by Julie H
Was it you who uses a "dewormer cocktail" of sorts?

You put in a post what you used when you get a new goat in.  If it was you can you share what it is and what the dosage of each would be for a commercial type Boer goat?

thanks!

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 on: September 08, 2020, 08:31:24 AM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by imalilbirdie
We can only pray that our children remember their roots and how they were raised and come back to them often.  Todays world is toying with their minds, and many do not see things the way we do.  When my Son was recently challenged  he did come back to his roots and his upbringing.   He now grows his own garden, he is supplying food off this own back yard.  He sees what this world is doing.  I praise God for that.

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 on: September 07, 2020, 01:20:47 PM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by Julie H
Time goes by so fast you will be loving on goats before you know it!!

My FIL was a builder so he always took care of the places they lived and my husband and his brothers grew up with that example.  If it breaks you fix it.  It would have been awful to have the place fall down around them when he spent the last 20+ years keeping it nice.  I hope most kids would do that for their parents ( if they could of course).

It was in deplorable condition when they bought it 27 years ago Wink

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 on: September 06, 2020, 06:45:18 PM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by imalilbirdie
well Julie.  You all have done a gorgeous job with the place.  And to dedicate to your in laws that way, that says some thing pretty special about you.

No animals for us for awhile.  Will have to save money before we can fence it all off, but one day we will.

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 on: September 04, 2020, 12:31:31 PM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by Julie H
It varies in MN , but the norm is mid-May- Sept ( and that is generous) when you have grass.  It takes that long for all the snow to melt  Grin

It is my in-laws farm Pam.  We have done a lot to it ( fencing, buildings, lean-to etc..)  since we came back 6 years ago and my husband and 2 boys work hard to keep everything up, maintained, cut and running.  One day it will indeed be ours but we do have a sense of pride since we do everything now.  His dad can't do much at all now, maybe an hour on the tractor to brush hog now and then but that is about it.  Sight and balance issues .  We do all we can to keep the place nice for them.

You can put your fencing skills to work on your new home Pam.  With 14 acres you must have animals!!

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 on: September 04, 2020, 10:50:28 AM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by imalilbirdie
MN has a shorter growth time span right?  My daddy always told me to never overstock my pastures...and then when I married my first husband, of course we had more than enough land for all our livestock.  Shane and I practiced that same management on our farms.

I like building fence.  I taught Shane how to build fence.  I built 3 fenced pastures one was 8 acres, and 2 were 5 acres, while Shane was at work for 3 weeks.  The only thing I needed help with was hanging the 16 foot gates.  So basically they were done by the time he came home.  Thanks be to God for tractors! Haha.

Your place is beautiful Julie.  You have to be proud as punch of it.

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 on: September 03, 2020, 12:12:09 PM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by Julie H
Dragon,  It is so nice to have it done.  We still need to string 2 strands of barb wire at the top, but since it isn't required to keep the goats in it is no hurry.  My husband and son did a beautiful job on the fencing.  Everything straight and strong.  I have no idea what it might look like if I did anything more than put the clips on !!

On our MN property my animals didn't have much grass.  The horses had just enough in their fenced area to look for something and the goats and cow pasture had just enough to have several hours grazing during the growing season but they were happy. I actually liked it better because no weight issues with my horse and I had basically no worm issues.  It was just soooo cold !!!

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