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 on: Today at 08:46:18 AM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by cbdale
I stay away from  collars on my  goats, as the first time I placed a collar on my goats, they started to butt heads, one goat got his horns under the collar of other goat, and I was there just in time before she would have been choked to  death.  I have been getting one of my 2&1/2 month Genemaster males head out of the fence, as he just has to get on the other side for the green foliage. Three times in 4 days.  He runs head thru the cattle panel, and thru the field fence, and there is where he gets caught.  The next 3 months are a pain in arse, until his horns are larger.  I tried the taping a piece of pvc across the horns; however, the strong tape started to cut off circulation in horns, and they started to act like a banding.  I had to remove the tape. They usually learn after a few hang ups in the fence, how to turn head, and lower the horns to get out.  Birdie learned in about 2 times getting caught, when she was growing up.  She made a very nice Genemaster/BoKi) doe.  I let my goats use my 16ft  trailer to go in or out with a hay hanger, minerals, and I placed a 12 ft, heavy tarp over the top, and down the side pass the openings to  keep out rain.  I have cattle panels on floor, and I wash out daily.  My few goats are not a problem with  using the trailer.  I can get them in with a bucket of feed, and I feed them inside a lot of times just to acclimate if I want to haul them out.
 I went to sale barn Thursday, and it is a pitiful sight to see all the poor animals, that are sick and have not been fed.  I think if you can't take good care of your animals, you should not have them.  One young male (a lot of % of Boer) was dangling a  broke leg, and I do not see how I could take any of my  goats to sell, where they place them all into pens with other sick goats.  You probably will leave with goats that have been exposed to no telling what diseases, and I would not want back in my pasture.
 The sale barn now sell the animals not by weight, and only per animal as they come into ring.  I guess they come out better by not selling per weight.  A Mexican gentleman was talking to me about his son wanted a couple of good, young goats, not sick, and he said he hated to buy from a sale like this.  I gave him my number, and told  him to bring his son to see some nice goats, and healthy.
 Yes, I don't try to straddle my long horned goats-- not that old- yet!!  Yehaw

 on: Today at 04:50:03 AM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by imalilbirdie
I have always used the beards.  It works so good.  However, I really didn't have to do that very often.  They either followed or we used collars.  Tame goats, it's the only way to go. Smiley 

 on: October 19, 2017, 06:58:09 PM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by dragonlair
My boys don't have horns. They wear sled dog collars, as do all my goats. Some are the martingale types, others are just round. All are adjustable.  My boys lead very well for me, either just by the collar or with a lead rope attached. My huge Mancha buck is a big baby and likes nothing more than to rest his head against me and have me pat him. Her also likes to stick his nose in my face for a kiss on the muzzle. Ok, usually I will give him a kiss.....unless it is rutting season. No way, no how. I'll barely even pat him during that time. Eeewww.  Roll Eyes laugh tongue

 on: October 19, 2017, 01:55:02 PM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by nancy d
I avoid handling horns on bucks. Grabbing the beard up high works better for us.

Oh Julie that must have been a riot! I hired a couple of guys to do one buck's feet. They had to rope his horns, get a sheep collar on him & drag him out. At one point he decided to lay down so his helper straddled him.
I don't know why some people don't believe you when you tell them "I got this." When it's your animal they really should listen.
They had a horrible time holding him back when they were done.
"Just get the harness off & let go, He knows where he lives."

 on: October 19, 2017, 01:47:31 PM 
Started by Thordale - Last post by Thordale

Woolly Mammoths

 on: October 19, 2017, 01:21:18 PM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by Julie H
Julie, I think you could ride my BoKi buck, Winston, like a horse!!  

I think I'd rather not!  

I don't use the straddle and walk method with a mature full grown buck, for obvious reasons  Roll Eyes    That is where my son comes in handy if needed.  I use a collar, or just hold 1 horn and some grain to " lead" him where he needs to go.  when we reach the trailer we just grab both horns and encourage , drag or lift him , whatever is needed.  Usually goes very smoothly.

I sold a big Red/ White Pinto Boer buck that I had raised and used for several years.  The guy coming to get him had 2 strapping men with him and when I offered to bring him out they said that they could do it just fine and for me to step aside so I didn't get hurt  Huh?    I brought him out just as easy as you please and the one guy goes to take him.  I turned to close the gate and when I looked back around 1 guy was down and the other was being plowed through the dirt by the buck Grin

I quickly took charge and he was a lamb.  Both guys were kind of deflated and I think they got their male pride hurt that day.

 on: October 19, 2017, 05:32:26 AM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by imalilbirdie
We didn't have issue with loading or capturing our goats either.  Most all of them would come when I clapped my hands.  The lingering ones (not wild but just not willing to come in from the woodlands), they would come when they saw they were alone.  If you go to www.portahut.com you will see the huts we used both as field shelters and birthing huts.   This link is the exact one that we had.  http://www.port-a-hut.com/images/2p1_small.jpg  These were placed out in pastures and we built 16'x16' birthing pens with one in each pen.  The birthing pens could be used for sick pens as well.  We used these out in pastures and could easily move them from one spot to the next with either dragging them (they are heavy), or using the tractor (much easier on the back).  They are hinged in the back of them for easy lifting and cleaning under them, and can be bolted down to keep them more permanent.  Extremely nice huts, well worth every cent we paid for them.  Each one would hold seven large breed goats comfortably.  We had 25 of these placed around (7 was used for birthing huts).  Some of our goats had the horse stalls, and the barn...the year we had 36 head of Does bred, we needed to take the horse stalls for sure.


 on: October 18, 2017, 04:32:41 PM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by cbdale
Julie, I think you could ride my BoKi buck, Winston, like a horse!!   

 on: October 18, 2017, 01:02:05 PM 
Started by Thordale - Last post by Thordale

First lessons for foals

 on: October 18, 2017, 01:00:08 PM 
Started by Julie H - Last post by Julie H
I wish I could see how you gals arrange your  shelters, and handling of goats to get to sell barn or to an idividual for a sale.

It is called goat " tackle football" ( w/o the ball).
I am not as young and the ground is not as forgiving on my body when we come into contact so I leave the diving tackle to my son but we haven't needed him for several years  Grin .

Basically I just walk up and grab the horns , straddle the goat and " walk" them to the trailer. I spend a lot of time in with my girls and their kids from birth on so my kids are very well socialized.  The few that may be skittish and hard to catch then I get my daughter and put grain down.  We can usually hem them up among the goats eating or grab them while they are eating.

I think this year was the easiest time we had in loading the boys into the trailer as they were all exceptionally friendly.

I have 1 barn that all the goats share and there is a large lean to off that barn where I have my hay feeders and such so I have never had individual shelters.  I make kidding pens in both the enclosed part of my barn and also under the lean to if I run out of room.

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