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dragonlair
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« on: April 28, 2019, 02:21:48 PM »

So, with all this mud comes some cases of hoof issues. I was trimming long feet on Weds. One of my pain in the butt, psycho does decided to pull her foot away. The point of the really dirty hoof trimmers ended up in my finer, right next to the side of the nail. Being busy, I didn't bother to do anything about it until way later. By Friday morning, it was infected under the nail in all along the outside of the nail, down to the top joint. I soaked and did all sorts of stuff, nope, just got worse.

By Saturday, the top of the finger was purple, with a huge pocket of greenish pus. One of the behavioral nurses, also my friend, dragged me out to one of the ED docs who said either I get it lanced and on heavy duty antibiotics or I would be in the hospital as a patient by morning for sepsis.

Ok, I got it lanced and they are checking for the offending bacteria.

I found out something I have wondered about for a while now- the nerves in my fingers are messed up. She put enough lidocaine in my finger to numb an elephant, and it worked for the pad part of my finger but did nothing for the top part so when it was lanced and squeezed, I felt it fully. OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Other organs in body are in the wrong place, too, so why not my nerve endings????? tongue laugh
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2019, 06:42:31 AM »

holy cow!!!  That sounds awful.  Deb, you must not wait that long again.  Septic shock is a killer.  Sepsis is a killer.  Not to mention staph could have set into that.  I can't imagine the agony you were in with that, but I know from what you said I got very sick to my stomach.

I do hope you listen to what they say, do what they tell you, and be careful with that finger.  I know it's hard when you're the only caretaker of your little farm, but without you, they have no one..so you must take care.
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2019, 11:14:55 AM »

Oh gosh!  That sounded just terrible!  It made me cringe just reading it.

I second what Pam said.  You've got to make sure and take care of yourself.  I've said it before, but I just don't know how you do all that you do!!  Whenever I am having a hard time doing what needs to be done with the goats I tend to think of you and it gives me a little push to keep going.  You must have some kind of determination!!
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2019, 01:20:24 PM »

That must have hurt something awful!  Now I must know what organs are in the wrong place??
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2019, 05:55:48 PM »

Nerves in my fingers and my intestines are up in my chest. My late ex uterus was in the wrong general area, too. Who knows what else. Lol

Finger is much better, however those 4 extra strength antibiotics are killing me, and I still have a week to go. As much as I like yogurt, I'm sick of eating as much of it as I am to counter act the antibiotics.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2019, 05:46:44 AM »

I hear ya about antibiotics.  I'm just getting over Bronchial pneumonia, induced by a very bad cold virus.  They put me on breathing treatments at the hospital, as my SPO rate was down to 20 when I got there (I let it go way too long), piggy back IV's, and the one IV was this antibiotic they sent home with me, with prednisone and something else added to it, that made me very jittery.  I took that antibiotic that weakens your tendons.  If you stress your body you'll tear your tendons.  I was strictly told by doctors, nurses and the pharmacist that I was to go from the bed, to the bathroom, and to my easy chair and that was all for 14 days.  OMG!!!  I thought I would go insane!  I have 12 dogs a week in training right now, with 9 more coming in, in 2 weeks.  I had to cancel all those classes, as Doc did not want any type of stress on my body what so ever.  After 12 days on the antibiotic, I was so stir crazy that I asked Shane to take me to town to get a few things (he did all the getting stuff for me, I just road in the truck), and out to eat (quick drive up stuff).  We got home and I got out of the truck and low and behold I stepped off the running board and yelled "ewww Ouch!!!"...didn't think any thing of it, went into the house and took my shoes off, and there it was, plain as day...a black foot...with a huge knot on top.  Yep, I tore a tendon in the top of my left foot, but didn't tear it in two...OMG!!!  Another week before I could do any thing and only if it healed up.  It's been 2 weeks and it's still a little bruised, and the knot is still there, but I'm back to work, just not allowing any thing to tug on my body.  A friend (I trained her dog) called me almost every day.  When I first called her to cancel our session, she told me about a friend of hers that was on this same antibiotic, and had been off of it for a week when she got out of bed one morning and was walking to the bathroom and tore both tendons in the backs of her legs, and ended up in the hospital for Emergency surgery, and was down for 8 months!  Scared the pants of me.

My counter top looked like a pharmacy...breathing treatments, antibiotics, steroids (which had to be approved by my heart doctor before they would even give it to me---Heart doctor approved a low dosage rate of prednisone), cough pills, antibiotics (2 different kinds--talk about sick to your stomach ALL THE TIME), and probiotics (which swells my body up)...for 14 days...then an inhaler after my breathing treatments ended, that I had to do 4 times a day...I had most problem with the jittery feeling, and the MEDICINE MOUTH!!! Oh ick, that was so nasty...nothing killed that medicine mouth.

All this happened because of a cold virus Shane got in New Orleans, LA.  The doctors said my lungs were scarred from the Influenza A that I had last year, and that's why this went nuts on me.  I'm suppose to see a pulmonary Specialist but I just don't have time right now...when I finally get all these dogs graduated (hopefully by May 21st), then we fly home to AR for my Sons wedding, and will be gone a week.  Then when I get home, I'm booked solid until the end of July with more dogs coming in.  There will be no breathing room for any delays, or any extra any thing.

Antibiotics are good...but wow they suck on the body.
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2019, 11:04:45 AM »

Last summer they put me on 3 rounds of antibiotics which ended me up in the hospital in isolation for 6 days with C-diff.  I have done a lot of research since then about how to avoid that deadly bacteria especially if I ever have to be on another antibiotic someday.  There is one probiotic yeast that IS NOT killed off by the antibiotic you are taking.  It is called FLORASTOR.  It's expensive but trust me I will never take another antibiotic again without it.  

Of all the doctors that I saw in the hospital and I specifically asked about the best probiotic that I needed to be taking, not one of them suggested FLORASTOR.  I asked a nurse about FLORASTOR and she said I should have been taking it all along.

Anyway, that has been my experience with taking antibiotics.  

I'm glad your finger is doing better.  I hear you on the antibiotics.  I was so sick the entire three weeks I was taking them to the point of almost not being able to function.  The nausea was debilitating even with taking Zofran.  

You take care of yourself too Pam!!
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2019, 07:22:18 AM »

Ya Know Elizabeth, I remember you telling us all about how sick you were and how you suffered with that illness.  My heart broke for you.  I'm glad you're doing ok now.  And I'm really glad you shared that probiotic name with us again, but I sure had forgotten about it...It's now on my grocery list to purchase when I make my next town trip.  Some of those probiotics swells me up so bad, that I'm miserable for several days after I stop taking it.  It swells my entire body.  Doctors said to take smaller doses of it, like starting out with a 1/4th of the dosage and increasing after a few days at the lower dosage and do that until I'm up to full dosage.  I did a research on that, and it was recommended that you start with smaller doses and work your way up.  I tried that....just took 3 days longer to swell me up again. hahaha.  I'm praying that this one you suggest and recommend will not swell me up.
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2019, 01:14:16 PM »

I hate to say this but I have never been on an antibiotic in my entire life! Now something will happen and I will need one  Grin     I hope you all feel better soon.
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2019, 07:42:00 AM »

Julie, Shane and I rarely ever got sick before leaving AR.  We had a head cold here and there, maybe every 3 to 5 years....but in LA, it seemed to change, we both got a minor flu bug..nothing no big deal...no antibiotics or any thing like that, but when we got here to Texas...OMG!!!  Shane would go to work and someone (especially this one man) would be sick as a dog and spread it all over the office...Shane would get it, and it wouldn't be no time and I'd have it 3 times worse than any one else.  Our first winter here...we were sick the entire winter and I of course got Influenza A.  Which scarred my lungs and made this last bout he brought home even worse on me.  That first winter here in Texas was AWFUL to say the least.  This last winter we went all winter without getting sick at all.  Thank God for that...but this spring, Shane brought home a cold virus, that went into Bronchial Pneumonia on me when I got it.

We hadn't been sick with any thing that required antibiotics until we moved to Texas.  I suppose Arkansas got cold enough weather that it killed a lot of germs and viruses that we were exposed to, whereas Texas doesn't get that cold and germs and viruses aren't killed off.  Huh?
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2019, 02:04:15 PM »

You are older too ( sorry)  that can make for a big difference sometimes .
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2019, 07:13:31 AM »

Julie you are very right about that.  Shane use to work those boats offshore up in New York, very cold up there.  The guys were rarely ever sick.  Now he's in the office, and is exposed to all those people, and their sicknesses for at least 12 to 14 hours a day...and our age is counting against us now as well.  I tell him all the time, STAY AWAY FROM SICK PEOPLE!!  Well this last time, scared him good when I collapsed trying to tell him I couldn't breathe.  I have a client that I am training her mastiff dog...I had to cancel all my classes for a week while I was on that antibiotic...she called me to see how I was doing almost every day.  When I went back for classes with her and her dog, she asked me again about the symptoms and what all happened to me.  I had already told her over the phone but this time, I heard the concern in her voice.  I told her again, and how it progressed to the point I just flat couldn't breathe any more.  She then told me her Aunt had gotten sick just 2 days after I got sick.  She said that, her aunt did what I did, took OTC med's and thought nothing of it and rested.  This virus we had, you do not run any fever with it...in fact it's the opposite of it, your body temp goes sub-normal...yet you have the chills and the body aches making you believe it's some sort of flu bug.  You have the vomiting and diarrhea for a day, a kind of sick stomach but not bad, stuffy head, watery eyes, cold type symptoms.  Then you start that coughing...OMG, THAT COUGHING IS AWFUL.  Then you slowly can not breathe and the coughing spasms take hold and your back kills you from coughing so hard.  And you can't get any air in before the next spasm hits you.

Well my Client said her Aunt got sick 2 days after I got sick and didn't go the doctor or the hospital.  Thought she could whip it on her own, (so did I until day 7 when I couldn't breathe any more).  Her Aunt went to bed with Vicks and cold med's and didn't wake up....her Aunt died 6 days after getting sick with the same thing Shane and I were sick with.  Her autopsy showed that her bronchial tubes had totally collapsed and her lungs filled with infection.  I was blown away by that.  I waited 7 days....she was dead in 6 days.

The family is shocked, devastated, and dumb founded over how a cold virus could do this.  I told her the ER was working like crazy on me, with piggy back IV's and breathing treatments because my SPO was so low.  Doc told us he was going to admit me before the chest xray was even done.  This cold virus was/is a bad one...one to take very seriously.  And Shane got this off one of the Inland boats that he visited over in New Orleans, LA, and my clients Aunt and I had never came in contact with one another.  Shane came through it just fine, I got it much worse, and my Clients Aunt died from it.  What kind of Virus was this?  Well that's what my Clients family and doctors are trying to figure out now.
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2019, 09:02:11 PM »

Birdie, that virus/cold or whatever you want to call it is strong in this area. My son, DIL and her son had it. Most of the people I work with had it, or are still fighting it. It's nasty for sure.

I stopped taking the antibiotics on Tuesday, I couldn't take the sick feeling they gave me or the yeast infection from he11, no matter how many gallons of live culture yogurt or capsules of probiotics I took. I was even putting the Fastrack into capsules and swallowing those LOL. I finally got my doc to prescribe me the 1 pill treatment but it took several days for them to do that. They claim they didn't get the records from the ER. Since when do they need that?

Anyway, the finger is totally healed. But the yeast infection is still going strong. The antibiotics made my asthma and allergies worse, so I am "coughing up a lung" and my nose and eyes are running like crazy.

Never again will I take antibiotics. I don't care what the hospital said (due to my constant exposure to MRSA, C Diff, and VRE), never again!  Angry
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2019, 05:28:00 AM »

I know they wanted to hit that infection pretty hard...I understand that...but they should take into account that it makes people really sick from the antibiotic itself.  Deb, you could have lost that finger.  That was serious stuff.  Remember when Samson got that staph infection in a toe nail?  That antibiotic they put him on for that costed me 285.00 for 5 pills.  But the Vet said that without it, they'd have to amputate his toe.  I remember when I got cow pox, and the human doctors didn't think much of it when it was just a few small spots on me...didn't do any thing except benedryl and calamine lotion...we took a dog to the vet, and he looked at it and of course there were more spots and the spots were larger...first thing he asked was, which milk cow had sores on her teats, well none of them did...so he never traced down where or why I got it, but he gave me the right antibiotic for it, and it was gone in 4 days. 

Point is, that maybe your vet would have helped faster than your human doctor?  It's a shame that the ER wasn't quick enough for the records, but your doctor could have called for them as well.  Here, and in LA, they always gave me what they did and what they diagnosed it as in hard copy before I leave the ER, so that I have it for the PCP (if I had one)...xrays are put on disc and handed to me on the way out.  All ER's should do that.

My DIL gets yeast infections from Cultured Yogurts...I wonder if you got too much of that in your system?  She was on the Cultured yogurts because she has crones disease.  Once she went off the yogurts and onto only probiotics, she was fine, and continued the antibiotic therapy. 
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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2019, 03:39:28 PM »

The yeast infection was caused by the antibiotics killing off the good bacteria that keep the candida in check. I eat yogurt every day, have for years.

The doctors office I go thru are useless as teats on a bull. All patient info is in a computer system, hooked up to all the hospitals and doctors offices in Maine. All they had to do was type in my name and they would have had my records from my er visit. If I had known it was only a simply staph bacteria, I wouldn't even have taken the first 3 days of the antibiotics. I was afraid it was one of the hoof rot bacterias. Lol I understand the ER docs point of view, because I work in the ED/med floors, go hands-on on a regular basis, and most of our Psych patients have MRSA or other diseases, she wanted to make sure whatever bacteria I had was killed, so she made a cocktail that would kill everything. It did, and destroyed my happy little gut bacteria community. Records such as you described are not handed out up here, you have to request them thru medical records. It's even more difficult if you are a hospital employee due to federal rules and regulations.

My vet would not have the ability to prescribe medication for a human yeast infection! I wouldn't ask the poor 90 year old man, anyway. LOLOL

It bet it wasn't the bacteria in the yogurts that caused your DIL's yeast infections, since candida is not one of the bacterias used in yogurt, it was probably the milk sugar in the yogurt.
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