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dragonlair
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« on: July 19, 2019, 06:55:05 PM »

I lost my Momma Malamute last night. Her hind end had been weak for some time and her kidneys not working well. She had lost control of her bladder and bowels, but we made do with pee pads, tarps and paper grain bags. As the weather got warmer, her thirst increased and her ability to regulate her temp was getting bad. We are supposed to have temps in the 100's this weekend with 78% humidity. There is no way she could have kept her temp at a normal level and she would have drown in her own fluids, not to mention been covered in her own urine. She hadn't been feeling well the past few days and I knew I had to let her go before this heat wave hit. It damn near killed me, but I know she is running free again. My soul is crushed, but she is free of pain.
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2019, 06:59:13 AM »

 Cry Cry Cry  Nothing and I mean nothing is harder to do than to let go of our beloved animals who are suffering so.  It's so hard to see them cling to life and struggle.  I'm so very sorry for your loss...it deeply breaks my heart for you.  It was a God sent blessing that she not be suffering any more.  Made whole, and full of life in Doggie Heaven.

It's odd this occurrence.  Night before last we felt sure Sasha wouldn't be with us yesterday morning.  She old, and weak in her hips.  A few fatty tumors, that are still noncancerous.  But she's loosing muscle mass, and looks skinny even though I have her on a high protein, low fat diet, and she gets 4 cups for breakfast and 2 cups at supper.  She was 127 pounds and is now down to 93 pounds.  Why? I keep asking myself.  She still plays ball, packs her ball with her every where.  But a few nights ago, she cried when you approached her, cried if you woke her, cried when she stood up, cried in the night while she was sleeping....she seemed weak, and dazed.  I thought she might have gotten into poisoning, but there is nothing here that's toxic....I just don't know what was wrong with her...but yesterday she snapped out of it and seems fine now.  Running, playing ball, no more crying, no more dazed look.  We don't have a clue what was wrong, but I hope it doesn't happen again.

Maybe my Sasha and your Nukka we with each other in spirit?

Again, I'm so very sorry for your loss.  Bug Hug Cry
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2019, 01:00:51 PM »

I am so sorry Cry  That is the hardest part of having our beloved animals.   Thank you for doing what was best for her.
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2019, 06:53:36 PM »

Thank you. I miss her so much. The Pyrenees, Nessa, is grieving pretty hard for her. The pup keeps looking for her.

Birdie, how are her kidneys? When they get older, high protein food can over tax the kidneys. I had to drop mine down to a lower protein because it was messing with their kidneys.
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2019, 06:44:10 AM »

I would expect they'll grieve for a little while...I remember how ours would grieve with the loss of a fur sibling.  Sasha really grieved for Ringo...for a few weeks.

Sasha's kidneys and organs are doing really good.  Her blood tests are in normal range.  I was a little shocked, figured they'd be elevated but it's not.  I just hate the thought of her loosing any more muscle mass.  Seems like her aging happened over night.  She's now turning grey around her muzzle and ears and few white hairs on her belly.  That started about a month or so ago.  10 yrs is old for a shepherd.  I'll check into the lesser protein food.  Samson is 8 yrs old (yeah, can you believe that!!!  Sammy is 8 yrs old!!), and Brandy Wine is 4 yrs old (yeah, that's unbelievable too).  All in good body condition.  But I could reduce the protein but to what?  I'm not a fan of feeding cheap foods to my dogs.  Right now I have them on Nutro Large Breed No grain Lamb, & Sweet Potato.  They love this food.  They munch down every single bite every meal.  Samson is so picky, if it's a food he gets tired of, he won't touch a bite for a week. 
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2019, 03:40:03 PM »

Have you seen all the warnings about grain free foods?
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2019, 06:45:21 AM »

I've seen the warnings...even had one Vet tell me (who says he's a nutrional specialist) that corn was good for dogs.  The sweet potato has not been deemed bad for dogs.  If I remember correctly it's the peas that are starting the controversy.  If I could afford it, I'd have all my dogs on Canidae dog food, but I just can't afford it. 
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2019, 01:23:34 PM »

No.  What warning?  I don't do grain free as it makes no sense in my world.  My dogs happily lick up every single thing I spill when mixing the goats grain so I figure they like it.  They have never had health issues either so it can't be that bad....
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2019, 06:37:13 AM »

Grain free diets are basically sweet potato, slit pea, fruits and so forth...any thing "except" corn or rice.  I study these diets and these foods like crazy.  I don't feed the split pea foods or foods with fruits, but my dogs love the sweet potato diets.  I do NOT EVER feed my dogs foods that contains corn.  My dogs "toot" and have diarrhea and Sammy throws up with foods made with corn.  Right now they are on Chicken and Rice food, but they love the Chicken and Sweet Potato.
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2019, 01:32:38 PM »

Just like some people have sensitive digestion issues, I guess?

We don't here in my family and I guess the dogs are like us  and they eat everything Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2019, 07:02:56 AM »

It's been said that the dogs fed certain grain free diets have died.  The ones that I know died, were being fed the foods with peas. 

My dogs in the past always ate any thing I gave them and did fine, but I always made sure they didn't have foods with corn in them.  But if I had corn left over from a human meal, they loved that.  Samson has allergies to Beef so we can't have beef in their foods.  All of mine have issues with "corn" in their dog food.  Mine are just weird...haha.
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2019, 04:27:13 PM »

Birdie -- Do you think Samson has Alpha-Gal?  A LOT of people around here can't eat beef because of that.  I'm amazed at the number of people I know who have it.
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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2019, 06:51:27 AM »

Pat, I don't know.  I've never had him tested.  That's a good question...I will have to find that out. 
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2019, 03:25:19 PM »

Supposedly it's the legumes that cause the issue. Dogs need Taurine and the grain free foods lack that nutrient, the legumes either block it or don't have it.

I don't feed foods that contain soy, wheat or corn. The other grains are fine with my dogs, they get warm oatmeal in their kibble during the cold winter months.  They are sensitive/allergic to those 3 grains. My Pyrenees is sensitive to chicken. 99% of the dog foods have chicken of some sort in them.  Angry
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