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imalilbirdie
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« on: November 16, 2009, 07:09:21 AM »

Here's my thoughts..this is just a game folks.

What I'm going to do is give symptoms to an illness or injury..and what I would like each of us to do, is to give our procedure of what we would do first..
One entry per person, per reply...I would like everyone to state what they would do in each illness/injury..

Example..
If I post to you symptoms of..
greenish discharge from the nostrils, weepy eyes, slight raspy cough, no body temp, off grain, eating hay and drinking water..what would you do?

I would like each of you to post one answer per reply...
Example..
SallyP posts..
VetRx 2 drops per nostril every 4 hours.

Candace posts..
Wash eyes with warm water, apply neosporine once daily

Sandie posts...
B-complex once daily

Pearplum posts..
VetRx given orally 2 drops 2 times daily.

I want you to post something different than what the person prior to you posted, EXCEPT..if there is an alternate treatment such as
if you suggest...
give an antibiotic, I'd use Biomycin 
the next post could be
Alternate antibiotic would be LA200

If you can when you post a treatment/medication..give as much info about that treatment as possible..
such as..
Biomycin 4.5cc's per 100lbs of body weight, long acting antibiotic, given once every 36 to 48 hours, unless there are signs of improvement.

Or like the VetRx, 2 drops per nostril, every 4 hours. 

This will refresh our memories of things we should know right off hand.  It will help our newbie goat owners as well.  And it will give information that is good to use on every goat breed.

Please use your own words..if you need to research it from one of our other trusted sites then feel free to do that, but please post in your own words. 

This can be fun, this can help each of us, and bring to light new treatments and procedures that some of us might not know.

What say you..wanna give it a go?  Join in if you want, you don't have to do this..but I'm sure we'll all learn something from it eventually. Smiley

I'll start with your first symptom(s) to treat in the next reply.



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imalilbirdie
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2009, 07:17:25 AM »

Lets start off with a relatively easy one for all of us.. Smiley

Symptoms:
Boer Goat down
Doesn't want to get up
Left side of the belly in the rumen area, much larger than the right side
Grinding teeth
a little moaning and cries out occassionally
Off feed
Normal body temp.
Eyes are normal
Wormed 2 weeks ago with Dectomax
Yearling Open Doe

What is this, and what do I do for it?
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dragonlair
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2009, 07:21:40 AM »

Dose with bloat medication (I use Gas-X) and Baking soda. Make her walk and massage rumen area, sounds like bloat. I would also give her a C&D anti-toxin. Follow up with  commercial probiotic product or yogurt.
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imalilbirdie
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2009, 02:45:19 PM »

Ok, thanks Dragon. Smiley

Lets do just one treatment per post though ok? Smiley  Such as Dragon would have posted..
baking soda balls, dampened with water and formed into a ball given orally every 30 minutes to an hour..

Then someone else would give another treatment..such as
keep them walking...

So, I'll make another post of another illness and see what we come up with ok? Smiley
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imalilbirdie
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2009, 02:48:29 PM »

Symptoms:

Weaned 5 month old Nubian wether.
Weighs around 30+ pounds
seems to be loosing weight.
Normal body temp.
Increased his feed portions.
Increased his hay amount.
Still not gaining but appears to be loosing weight.
Eyes are not pale but whitish pink color.
His coat seems dull and frumpy looking.

What is wrong?  what do I do for it?
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harmon_farms
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2009, 04:03:34 PM »

Worm with wormer of choice for your area. I would use Ivomec dosed at 1cc per 50lbs, so I would give .6-1cc orally. Probably closer to 1cc that way it's not under dosed.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2009, 06:42:12 PM »

No idea on this one- not experienced it myself - but will be watching the simulation/correction of the problem. 

Hi again,

Terri
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herdmomma
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2009, 07:11:27 PM »

I would after that give him some oatmeal , mollassas and raisins for the iron content
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Sandie
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2009, 07:17:57 PM »

after worming b complex and vitamine a d & e.
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imalilbirdie
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2009, 06:03:36 AM »

Good job you all!!  That's exactly what it is..it's a worm issue, that hasn't progressed to anemia. Smiley 

Now, here's one that is a little more difficult..you'll need to read all the symptoms carefully, because they do mock two different illness's.


Symptoms:

8 month old Open Obi Doe
Bottle fed and raised.
Weighs around 90 pounds
Hair coat is real shiney
Very healthy, got sick quickly
reluctant to lay down, when she does lay down she can't get back up.
drooling slightly out the left side of her mouth
off food and water
Seems to star gaze into open spaces
When she walks she walks in staggering circles to the left
She seems to have impaired vision out her right eye, won't blink when I touch above the eye.
Body temp is now 100 when we first noticed her acting off an hour ago her temp was 101

What am I?  What do I do?
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happyjunker
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2009, 07:33:19 AM »

I know...I know... POLIO!!!  Check the info pages for what to do and scream for help on the Emergency Only Site!!! Wink Wink Wink
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imalilbirdie
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2009, 07:37:26 AM »

GOOD JOB TRACY!!!  Smiley

Now tell me, what do I do for this Polio illness?
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happyjunker
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2009, 10:03:03 AM »

Well it's a good thing those info pages are there!  I was going to say antibiotic but the Info pages say:
POLIO: Thiamine is the only effective therapy, dosage is 5 cc per 100 lbs.
I think my first guess of crying and screaming for help may not be nearly as effective, but would be my first response  _scream
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imalilbirdie
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2009, 10:18:17 AM »

Good Job Tracy  Smiley ..Thiamine is B1, and it can be given in human form pills, as well as injection.  In the case of Polio, you can not overdose Thiamine.   


Contrary to the info pages..and the experiences I've had helping with polio, and dealing with our Caprine specialist back home in AR..you would administer an antibiotic even with Polio..two reasons stand behind this..

1. Polio mimic's Listeria..the only difference in the two diseases/illness's is that Listeria will spike the body temp, and infect the brain stem, and Polio will rapidly drop the body temp.  With the two mimicing each other..it's always safe to do the antibiotic.
2. Polio will put a goat down, weaken it's immune system drastically in just a matter of hours.  Thus subjecting the immune system to all sort of sub-illness's.  Such as Polio dropping the body temp, making the goat lethargic, and rendering it unable to move, Pneumonia would be the secondary illness you would battle with Polio.

Thus you would administer an antibiotic even with Polio.  The antibiotic of choice per my Vet back home, is Nuflor.
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Sally P
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2009, 12:28:03 PM »

And most recommendations for polio are thamine and penicillan---massive amounts!!  I've never seen the other antibiotics recommended.
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