Well, theres another tid bit of info to store back...I was aware of the bucks but not of the does....I must have been very lucky all summer, cause mine ran together...could be my buck isn't that persuasive...he is Nigi...I guess same rule applies?...he did catch pygmy twins when they were brought onto the herd..

Yep Itty Bitty its a case of whats good for the goose is good for the gander...Lol I had 2 get pregnant at 4 months old...They did fine but was still nerve wracking..

I am glad to hear that there are some very young does, who were accidentally bred, actually made it through delivery okay. I just hate that there is a chance these seemingly frail little babies, might be pregnant. When we pulled these two twins from that little heard, I never even thought about it. Until we were walking back to the car, and the lady tells me, no guarentees, they could be bred. I was shocked. I knew the mini breed bucks were early starters, but I didn't know the does were, until I got home and started studying and asking some questions. Much to my dismay, I learned the mini does are just as bad as the mini bucks. I guess we'll see what comes in time.

Thanks for everyone's imput, and name ideas too. We have settled on names... "Honey Bee" is the brown and white one, and the white one is "Blossom".

Also, I am happy to report, they ate ALL their supper. Boy they have some big tight round bellies! (even before they had their supper) They have hay at all times, so I'm thinking they are putting away some food! They were much friendlier at supper time also. When I checked on them later, they both met me at the door, and I had to be careful they didn't scoot out as I opened it! They are still skiddish, but are much braver now. I hope to see as much progress everyday! What a blessing! I hope they turn into little lovebugs!!!

My mini girls started cycling at 2 months old. Thank goodness their brother
and other penmate were rendered incapable.
  I would have to guess that if they are cycling, they are capable of being
bred.  NOT GOOD! I am already worrying about what we will do when
this lot gets to that point. I don't want to wean the boys off before they
are ready, but also don't want to chance an unplanned breeding.  Aaaaggghhhh!
Goats drive me crazy.

You could always ship Charlie to MEEEEEE

Just wanted to tell you all about this. I got one of my books yesterday, it was the one about Pygmy goats. I was reading in it, scimming through, then found something interesting. Pygmy goats tend to have a slower horn growth then other breeds. I had no idea! BUT this could very well explain why my twins just have tiny horns of about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch, at 5 and a half months old. Don't forget, these girls are 3/4 nigi, and 1/4 pygmy. So I think its quite possible they are taking after the pygmy side in horns and size anyway. Also remember, this info is what the lady told me who I got them from... I saw their daddy, he looked like a typical pygmy goat to me, maybe he was more then half? But I don't know much about goats yet. She told me he was half pygmy, half nigi, and the mother was nigi. Assuming she actually knows, then my girls are 3/nigi and 1/4 pygmy. Either way, they have some pygmy in there, so it can account for the horn growth, as well as their itty bitty size.

They are doing awesome this morning! Blossom is still on the shy side, but she will come check me out now. Honey Bee is a 'got-getter'! Maybe shoulda called her Queen Bee. lol

Pygmies horns may grow slower but they are very difficult to disbud. I disbudded a friends pygmys and it took several times and they still had scurs. The other breeds I disbudded just had to be done once.