Could M worm be a possibility?

I have used the injectable cydectin given orally. But as Sunshine said, you have to make sure  of the goats weight.

Another way to get her up on her feet is to take a square bale of hay or straw. Put a blanket, grain bag, tarp, towel on it and lay the doe over it, with the wide part of the bale on the ground and top. The bale should be laying east west (or north south) and the doe's belly on top, her front legs on one side and her rear legs on the other, going in the opposite direction. This way they are supported and upright, not swinging, and the circulation and digestive systems can continue normally.

Massage those legs, from the shoulder/hips down to the hoofs. Don't be gentle, rigorous massage to stimulate the blood flow and keep the muscles strong. Also, massage her along the back to keep those back muscles in shape.

Checked on Rosie, about the same. Still eating and drinking fine. Gave her more b12 and iron. I did notice she has a little clear discharge at nose so I'm worried she might be working on pneumonia from all the down time. I gave her a dose of Nuflor Monday and Wednesday prior to any symptoms and now she actually has the little bit of drainage so any ideas if I should give another Nuflor or switch to Biomycin. I always thought the Nuflor to be stronger than the Biomycin but not real sure on that one.

I will continue all the supportives and try suggested ideas. Nothing can hurt at this point. Just heart breaking to see her lying there and kids wondering why mom isn't going out grazing with them. They are weaning age so that is good. I apprec iate all of the ideas and postive thoughts. I will continue to try to keep her comfortable and do all I can. 

Dragon-wonderful idea with the hay bale. I will try to get her up when hubby gets home.

I have never used Nuflor so I cant help you with that...

Nuflor    (Florfenicol)   - RX.  Administered IM every other day for a maximum of three injections. This is a very thick liquid, so use Luer Lock syringes, or the needle may shoot off the syringe, causing this relatively expensive medicine to be wasted. Dosage is 1 cc per 25 lbs. of body weight. Keeps best under refrigeration in warm climates.

The above info is what I found here:  http://www.goatbeat.net/health.html


Don't know if this helps, but I would guess that you might not want to switch antibiotics.  I don't know much about Nuflor. 

Nuflor is extremely painful..Nuflor feels like it's pinching you really bad when it goes in, but what it actually is doing is stinging the nerves in the area of the injection.  Rub the injection site extremely well after you give it and hang on tight to the goat, they will scream bloody murder!  Nuflor is used for upper respitory infections..it's a dandy antibiotic, and is recommened to use with Polio by most Vets, but it's murder on their nerves when injected.  It soon passes but some times goats will limp after giving it.  This shot should go in the hind leg muscle hip area..giving it in the neck, is too painful.

The dosage Ace gave is the correct dosage. 

An update on Ms. Rosie: I got her up on a hay bale today. (Thanks sooooo much Dragon, I can't believe I didn't think of that.)  Worked and massaged her extremeties. She is still eating and drinking good. Gave her more iron, B12, lytes and thiamine. Her lids are still extremely pale. I have fought anemia a time or two before and actually beat it but usually see some response by now. No sign of nasal discharge today so glad about that.

I guess we will just keep plugging along and going slow as long as she is not in pain and has a willing spirit, which she seems to. Thanks much to all and I will update any changes.

The reactions and her lack of response to getting up after this long a time---really point more to a stroke than anything else.  Time---just be patient.  Turn her and put her food and water where she can reach it. 

I just want you to know that even though I haven't had any advice to give, I've been following this thread and cheering you on. I've been through a similar but different experience recently and hope your girl pulls through. I'm rooting for both of you.

nuflor is a very strong antibiotic and it should ALWAYS be followed by doses of b complex , it really messes up all the b vitamins and causes a lot of problems if they are not replaced.  you might also give vitamin a d & e one time. and along with the iron give vitamin c as they all work together and are all needed . your iron will not be utilized / absorbed without vitame c.

Well Rosie is still hanging in there but she is loosing some weight, well actutally I think it is her muscle mass. I have been getting her up on the hay bale a couple of times a day. She puts weight on her back legs, it's her front legs that she isn't useing and one draws or knuckles under more than the other. Wondering if it wasn't possibly the heat stroke. She still eats and drinks and takes all her medicine but can't say she is improving much. Still extremely hot here, heat index 110. I am trying to keep her as cool as possible and hoping for the best. She has been a trooper. 

I would imagine this to be a stroke of some sort, either way, heat or other wise.  Physical therapy is about all you can do, with the supportive treatments of b-vitamins, baking soda to keep the rumen functioning, probiotics to keep the good bacteria healthy, electrolytes to stimulate the replenishing of good fluids in her body.  It's a battle from here to heal it, if it's a stroke..it will just take lots and lots of time and depending on how severe and how much regains will determine her full or partial recovery.

I sure didn't want it to be a stroke.  Patience and continue what you're doing, and lots of prayers.

Could this be hypocalcemia?  Was she in milk?  Could try CPMK or even some Tums to see if any improvement.  Low calcium makes muscles very weak.  Certainly couldn't hurt to try some calcium.  Good luck and hope she improves!

I have to disagree with this.  Sorry no offense to you, and thanks for the suggestion, and thoughts on this illness, and I don't differ that a little calcium might help, since she's really not stable yet..but..

Just a little word of warning here...CMPK, will strip every single ounce of the B-vitamins out of the goats body if it is not Milk Fever.  It's dangerous to use this if the goat does not have milk fever.  I've seen this happen just this year in fact.  A Doe I sold to a gal, who didn't tend her very well, let her go into Pregnancy Toxia with her kids..didn't treat it properly..left her to kid alone (it's a Sunday thing with this person)..and she immediately went into Ketosis.  They gave her CMPK, instead of the treatments I told them to give her and she was dying fast.  I sent another goat friend of mine over there, as I'm in Louisiana now, not AR..and I told this friend what to give this Doe and how much and how long, and she went over there and said to me on the phone "she doesn't look good, I don't think she's going to make it.."..I told her to do what I said to do and do it fast..the Doe regained but barely and by the skin of her teeth. 

It's best to not give CMPK if it is not Milk Fever.  When you do give CMPK, you make very sure you give the B-Vitamins to replenish what CMPK strips out of them.

I would think giving a few Calcium pills (human form crushed up and added to O.J.) would be ok, but don't give CMPK, unless you are absolutely sure it's milk fever.

Just didn't read whether or not hypocalcemia was a possibility; the original post just said dairy goat that had kidded in the spring.  And hypocalcemia could have explained the weakness if she was still producing lots of milk.  I didn't know that CPMK (Calcium, Phosphorus, Magnesium, Potassium) would interfere with B vitamins?  I know that it can irritate the mouth and throat, but how does it strip out the B vitamins?  Sorry, if I'm veering this thread off of the original problem.  Just very curious, because I thought CPMK was very safe-- but I've only used it in does very close to kidding time with obvious signs of milk fever.  I know that hypocalcemia can happen later in lactation in heavy producers.    Thanks, and I hope the doe is doing better now.